The Question of Circumcision

There’s this debate in Norway about circumcision of baby boys.  Some are arguing for prohibition. They say it’s the best for the babies, so that they later in life can choose what to do themselves. They then will have consciousness. It’s not right to give someone without free will an irreversible mark on the body.

The religious motives is not taken into account in the debate, it’s overseen or used as an argument against it. The only argument for those who practice it, and yet the human right fighters doesn’t mention it. The question of faith, of whether God can do something without our consciousness, the beginning of secularism.

If religious freedom is a human right, why isn’t it a perspective in the debate?

Jews where not allowed in Norway in 1814, some (indirectly) think it should still be so.

12 thoughts on “The Question of Circumcision

    • jacques derrida says:

      I think autentic believers know that they accually are very close to Atheism, because they can never be too sure weather they’re calling on God or simply mentioning his name.

      • STDs are mainly found among the poor, because malnutrition weakens the immune system. Poor people in the USA are less likely to be circumcised, poor people in the EU are more likely to be circumcised (Hispanic v.s. Muslim immigrants). So STD statistics can be misleading.

        Common sense tells us that both reduction of STDs and loss of sensation are likely if thin, moist, but highly enervated skin is removed. So both sides tweak science if they deny either.

      • jacques derrida says:

        The scientific language is strict, mathematical and yet always incomplete. The jews who believe God gave Abraham the sign of being the chosen people circumcises their babies due to belief, science is irrelevant in that matter. It can be a bonus effect, but God’s word alone is the core of the belief. That’s why it’s so ignorant not to mention that aspect in the debates.

  1. Gary Burlingame says:

    Religious motives ARE being taken into account. No one can carve their religion onto an adult man’s body, and thus no one can do that to a child or infant. It is assault, and a human rights violation.

  2. Sonny Vizzle says:

    Dear Jewish baby boy,

    I write you this letter because I value you as a human being. And it is simply for that reason alone that you have great value and great worth more than all the gold and silver and diamonds in all the world. All the Nobel Prize winners in your heritage cannot increase your value. You are valuable simply for the fact that you are a human being just like me. You are not above me, nor below me, but you are equal to me, and I call you my brother. Many giants are gathered around you. We call them adults. You have entered a strange new world outside of your mother’s womb. That woman who you will cherish forever is your mother. She is torn between the religion that she loves and her protective instincts. The man that loves her dearly is the one who you will call your daddy. He has a sense of his religious duty. And here you are caught in the middle of their world. It is precisely because I am thinking about you and I care about you that I am writing this letter. It is love born out of mercy and compassion that is missing in this world. When people declare that they want to make this world a better place, it will never be better until that kind of love exists. Now one of the giants who is not your mommy nor your daddy, but a strange man with a beard has a knife held towards your sensitive skin. You feel the excruciating pain and the world and everything around you stops and time is unknown. Love is forgotten. You feel nothing except for the pain, and you cannot escape it. Little Jewish baby boy, I want to write to tell you that you do not deserve to be treated that way. You deserve to be in your mother’s arms. I cannot save you, and my voice is weak. But all that I can do is speak. I love you. I care about you. I do not want you to hurt. I do not want you to fall down and scrape your knees. I want you to receive all the blessings that life can give you. Even though I am powerless to do anything to save you, I hope and pray that some day when you have a son of your own that you will have the courage to say no to traditions that lack mercy and compassion and that that kind of love will be passed down from one generation to the next.

    A gentile human being

    • jacques derrida says:

      Thank you! Derrida did not circumsize his babies, and his parents didn’t like it. He was kind of caught between judaism and the greece, but somewhere one has to make a choice.

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